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Idea 84

The crate comes back, or none of this works.

Deposits, return rates and the sixty per cent of two thousand glass milk bottles we never saw again. Returnable packaging is an arithmetic problem dressed as an environmental one.

What the milk bottles cost us.
What went wrong

What the milk bottles cost us.

Wychwood Dairy went into the shop in glass in 2021 with a forty-pence deposit and a return bin behind the tills.

Of the first two thousand bottles, roughly eight hundred came back. The rest are in sheds and greenhouses across west Oxfordshire, which is not a bad fate for a bottle but is a catastrophic one for a deposit scheme. At about ninety pence a bottle landed, that was a little over a thousand pounds of glass, and the dairy carried most of it.

Two things were wrong. Forty pence is not enough money to make anybody drive back, and a bin behind the tills is invisible to somebody carrying a basket. Both were our decisions.

Bottles out
2,000
Bottles back
~800
Return rate
40%
Cost
~£1,050
The levers

What actually moves a return rate.

ChangeEffect on return rateNote
Deposit at 40p ~40% Where we started
Deposit at £1.50 68–75% The single biggest lever, by a distance
Return point visible from the door +8 points Not behind the tills
Return accepted without a receipt +6 points Arguing about receipts loses more than it saves
Return accepted at the pub as well +9 points Two return points beat one, disproportionately
A crate rather than a bottle +20 points or more People return a crate. They keep a nice bottle
Reminder email at day ten +3 points Small, cheap, slightly annoying
Deposit refunded as credit, not cash −4 points People read it as a voucher, which it is
The argument

Why the crate is the unit, not the container.

  1. A nice bottle is a gift you have accidentally given away.

    The better the packaging looks, the less of it comes back. A plain returnable crate is ugly enough that nobody wants it in a kitchen and sturdy enough to survive forty round trips, which is exactly the right combination.

    Every scheme that has put its deposit on a beautiful embossed bottle has funded a large amount of very attractive storage across the county.

    Design the container to be wanted and you have designed a one-way trip.

  2. And a crate carries the whole order.

    One deposit, one return, one transaction. A customer returning eleven separate items is doing admin. A customer handing back a crate is doing nothing.

    It also means the deposit can be large enough to matter — six pounds on a crate is meaningful and unobjectionable, where six pounds on a jar is absurd.

  3. The economics only work above about thirty trips.

    A crate costs eleven pounds and survives roughly forty trips if it is not run over. Against cardboard at about one pound forty a box, break-even is somewhere between eight and twelve round trips, and everything after that is saving.

    Which means the whole scheme lives or dies on return rate, not on the environmental argument. At a forty per cent return rate a returnable crate is worse than cardboard, environmentally and commercially, and anybody running one at that rate should stop.

    Below seventy per cent, returnable packaging is worse than cardboard. That is the entire brief.

The specification

The scheme, specified.

The crate

Deposit
£6.00Refunded in full, in cash or to the card
Cost to us
£11.00 landedInjection-moulded, stackable, nestable empty
Expected trips
~40Before it is retired to the yard
Break-even
8–12 tripsAgainst cardboard at £1.40 a box
Target return rate
75%Below 70% the scheme is worse than cardboard

Where it comes back

The farm shop
Any opening hourAt the door, not behind the tills
The pub
Any opening hourWhich added nine points on its own
Collection lockers
Nine points, listedThe locker takes a crate as well as giving one
By courier
Prepaid labelCosts us more than the deposit. Offered anyway

What is inside it

Chilled liner
Wool, returnableFrom the wool mill, and it comes back in the crate
Void fill
Paper, recyclableNot polystyrene, ever
Glass
Returnable separatelyWhich the milk taught us to charge properly for
Plastic
None in the boxExcept the crate itself, which is the point

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Idea 84

Returnable packaging, at a glance.

£6 deposit

Large enough to bring somebody back.

Three return routes

Shop, pub and nine lockers.

75% target

Below 70% we would stop.

No polystyrene

Anywhere, at any point.

Where the crates live.

Nine collection points at taprooms and partner pubs.

Wondering

What people actually ask.

The two questions this page gets most, answered without a support ticket.

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